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Acted like he was still a general of the army and still required to take orders, a civil servant who was a fighting man, as well. this guy, shinseki, a fine man, of course, out there doing the best job he can, but he's not just a civil servant, not a headless nail. he's not covered by the -- he is a cabinet officer, he is supposed to walk. when your administration and your cabinet agency is a disaster area, you walk. that's what you're supposed to do. you don't wait for the president to fire you. you're not a civil servant who has rights under the law to keep their job. he ain't a headless nai...

Fighting man. i would be inclined to support such a thing depending on a lot of the details. >> of anybody on capitol hill, you know better than anybody what this young man must be going through. obviously it's a very different time. how do you get through something like this? i mean, for somebody in this situation? >> well, i was fortunate in where he is not that i had fellow p.o.w.s, that even though i was a long time in solitary confinement we would tap on the wall to each other and stay in communication. if it wasn't for that, it would have been a very different story for most of us. and t...

Five really hard-core taliban leaders as a confidence-building measure. now this idea is for an exchange of prisoners for our american fighting man. i would be inclined to support such a thing depending on a lot of the details. >> of anybody on capitol hill, you know better than anybody what this young man must be going through. obviously it's a very different time. how do you get through something like this? i mean, for somebody in this situation? >> well, i was fortunate in where he is not that i had fellow p.o.w.s, that even though i was a long time in solitary confinement we would tap on t...

Prisoner exchange? in 2012 you called the idea of negotiating with the taliban bizarre, highly questionable. >> well, at that time the proposal was that they would release taliban, some of them really hard-core, particularly five really hard-core taliban leaders as a confidence-building measure. now this idea is for an exchange of prisoners for our american fighting man. i would be inclined to support such a thing depending on a lot of the details. >> of anybody on capitol hill, you know better than anybody what this young man must be going through. obviously it's a very different time. how do...

Bravery that's what marcus has been sent to do. >> with this movie going out and all the discussion going on in iraq with ramadi and fallujah flying al qaeda flag, people are starting to sort of this is a time when people are trying to, you know, thinking about the war and asking all sorts of questions. >> well, the problem is this: at the tactical level, no one is going to defeat the american fighting man or woman. but at the strategic level, if we don't have people that have a long-term vision and strategy and stanged it's not about playing politics with the lives of our men and women in uni...