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The mission ancestor of oppressi oppression. from there, the pope made an unscheduled visit. he met with the nuns from the little sisters of the poor. they have been fighting obamacare that requires birth control in health plans. he focused on their ministry to the elderly poor. the speaks person said he spoke to us from the youngest populism to the elderly. he may not have spoken about the lawsuit, but that sent a message. the pope will be welcomed to jfk airport by mayor de blasio. you can imagine security for the

Fighting and people attack each other. some of the candidates have said that they need to attack trump, and a lot of that's going to go on. jake tapper who is moderating the debate said he wants to pit one candidate against the other. that's fine. where there's a difference in policy, senator cruz will make the difference. he's stood up on so many issues like amnesty and had a consistent position on it, like raising the debt ceiling, like fighting obamacare and still is fighting obama care. he'll have an opportunity to show his leadership on those issues. and i don't think he's going to engage...

It's been a crazy few days with senators ted cruz and mike lee doubling down, still on obamacare despite how many times the efforts have not proven successful. mitch mcconnell saying enough is enough. as a party we have to unify, focus on issues that win us election. walk us through when's going on here. are there people that believe fighting obamacare right now is a winning issue or are they simply about their own personal political gain? >> well i think that they're maybe not mutually exclusive especially for senator ted cruz getting quite a bit of traction appealing to the tea party of the ...

Senators on obamacare. that's what his campaign is arguing, that he shouldn't be held to a different standard because there are a lot of republicans frankly, most if not all republicans at this point, who are in congress and running for president arguing that they want to repeal obamacare, and many if not most of them are a part of it. the difference here is number one, ted cruz has made his name has become a public figure on repealing obamacare. he announced for president on the five-year anniversary of obamacare. as i said until now he's been able to kind of shield himself because he's had h...

>> exactly right. >> just for a thought. >> as i said before i'm seriously thinking about running for president. i haven't made a final decision. either way important for our country to transition into the 21st century. time to turn the page on the 21st century. part of that is to become globally competitive again. that's why i'm excited about tax reform none of us can do our taxes ourselves that's a bad sign. anyway senator thank you both. >> thank you. >> you can see our entire interview with senators rubio and lee just go to gretawire.com after "on the record" of course and watch it straigh...