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Party. >> joan? >> i want to say, in this post-election conversation, women and people of color are being scapegoated. it's like we tried your way. bernie sanders is basically saying, okay, we tried your way, now i'm going to legitimize donald trump immediately and look for ways to work with him and support him, and it's once again recentering the white working class at the middle of our conversation. now we've got to look for why we failed to reach them, but i also take issue with this notion that hillary clinton had no message. if you hated her, she had no message. if you liked her or you we...

To all kinds of people, so that's a fight to watch, and i think it could be really important to determine the future direction of the democratic party. >> very quickly, joan and i want to let have bob have the last word. >> i just think that knocking off the female minority leader after we just killed the hopes of the first female president would be a really bad message to send and i love tim rink, the kind of guy we need for the future. >> but joan, we're lose across the country. put the presidential election aside. we have nothing across the country. we've got to restore credibility with the...

50% of republicans are very enthusiastic about voting this fall. >> mika, you're exactly right. remember with the party was at 20% identification earlier when we were talking? what is happening is that people are coming to the republican party because it is a fighting party. and it looks like now it is headed for a major victory despite the terrible loss of david frum. >> okay. frum? >> they haven't lost me. i'm not accepting the verdict of the membership committee. i'm staying. but, look, supposing that's already. supposing republicans have a major victory in november. if i were a democrat, i...