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Under any circumstances at any time. >> how do you explain that guy who is not a trump guy, right, he was put in there by obama, and you were there a long time, people respected you there. him coming to a different conclusion? >> i can't explain why the process is so deeply impacted by politics. we all know, from the president's own statements, his absolute, very clear intention. the result that he want -- demanded from that investigation and that's, of course, the one they delivered. i can't explain to you why even now, as my team attempts to uncover the ig's own processes and policies and ru...

I know that the process that i went through was one that was unfair and was one that left out multiple pieces of relevant information. the testimony of witnesses that were never referenced in the report. i can't explain to you exactly why that happened, but i have a great suspicion that the president's clear desire had an impact on it. >> you know, it sounds to me like you're accusing the president of the same thing he accuses you, right? he says mccabe had it out for me. he didn't like me, he opened up this investigation. you're making a similar case, mr. mccabe, which is, trump was out to ge...