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Barry winn had been rick perry's finance guy and now he's endorsing mitt romney. >> right. >> what about -- and i saw something about this where you -- i think you were talking to our friend laura ingraham yesterday where -- what about the ron paul impact? i mean, you look at the number of people who are supporting him across the country and republicans would not be wise to discount the power of the ron paul voter. >> if republicans don't understand the important aspects of what ron paul is saying, i don't think we'll continue to exist as a party. certainly not as a majority party. >> you like...

Was long-winded, which was really the pot calling the kettle black. >> yeah, i was surprised. would you say that was a jab or more of a left cross? >> ezra, i don't know why these liberals are so hate-filled ezra. it makes me sad. as we move forward, ezra, tell me, what do you see happening at the white house as they move forward toward the 2012 election? do you think they're going to hammer on -- you think the consumer protection side of it? where do they see the other vulnerabilities for mitt romney? >> two that are big, one is the financial stuff. he was head of bain capital, looks like a f...

Kettle black. >> yeah, i was surprised. would you say that was a jab or more of a left cross? >> ezra, i don't know why these liberals are so hate-filled ezra. it makes me sad. as we move forward, ezra, tell me, what do you see happening at the white house as they move forward toward the 2012 election? do you think they're going to hammer on -- you think the consumer protection side of it? where do they see the other vulnerabilities for mitt romney? >> two that are big, one is the financial stuff. he was head of bain capital, looks like a finance guy, won't release his tax returns. so they'd l...

>> if this is the environment and the contest started, who is the win jer is it barack obama? >> i think it is president obama. look at what happened last night. i was on the phone with a friend of mine's dad who lives in iowa. republican voter. i don't like enough of these guys to show up at a caucus. we saw that. not a big turnout over 2008. less voters came out then than for president obama. after six, seven years of campaigning, millions of dollar, mitt romney got the same number of voters at last time. a littlefragility there. you see the working plass cou c, towns around the border, talk...

cafe. and official, a few hours ago, mitt romney, 30,015 votes. santorum om eight votes behind, and both candidates coming out to speak before the final votes came in last night. romney moved on. his eyes on the big prize. take a listen. >> you are working, i am working and we're all working together because of our passion for this country and a concern led by a president who may be a nice guy but just is over his head, and i look at his campaign -- you know, four years ago tonight he was giving a victory celebration speech here in des moines, and he'd been going across the state mak...