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Prettyhe looks sour, and glam. clearly, he was concerned. about the fact that he was forced to be in that courtroom that said, it's pretty clear that the trump lawyers do have a lot of legal challenges that they can bring here. the case that allen bragg ha brought is plausible, bu doesn't seem particularl strong it rests on a novel lega theory that the stat prosecutor can use a federal offense, a federal campaig finance violation, as an underlying crime to bump u what would otherwise be misdemeanor. we will see whether that survives motions to dismiss, o move this to federal court this is goin...

Speech he talked about the investigator mark pomeranz -- i'm going to have to toss it back to you, lester >> all right, adam,just to be clear. sorry. just to be clear, these charges would be felonies then, because he's citing the campaign violation perhaps, finance violation. >> i believe they're misdemeanors 34 counts of falsifying in the first degree i would defer to laura >> yeah, actually -- >> falsifying in the first-degree, that's a felony. >> that means we can define that -- >> we just got an awful lot of information from adam reiss who was inside that courtroom, and we are just hearing...

It? is it novel. it's novel. in the sense, of course, we don't exactly know which charges they're going to do yet, but one of the theories is that it would be novel because they charged the falsification of business records and then if they can tie that to the intent to cover up some other felony, then that gets amped up to a felony conviction. so the potential novel idea is whether or not they would tie it to a federal campaign violation. now they could go with the number of state violations, including a state election violation, or perhaps some of the tax fraud that had been previously charg...

The campaign. >> he would have paid this out regardless >> his lawyer at the time who pled guilty to the lies and frauds, who is not a cooperator, said that under oath >> we are back the campaign finance violations aren't at issue. it's not -- there's no state crime there. what's he talking about? >> he is talking about it nevertheless he is stating the wrong test it's not true. if that's a reason why you did it, it's a crime the first thing i'm going to do going back to as soon as we seat indictment, i want to see -- this goes to what suzanne was talking about, what is the other crime? i thin...

Lev parnas and igor fruman are being vigorously prosecuted by the sdny and giuliani is under investigation, we know that lev parnas has a tendency to talk, that he's cooperating, has provided documents to congress so far. if i were rudy giuliani i would keep a low profile but you and i both know he can't help himself. >> he can't help himself. glenn, we know the president is receiving free legal services from giuliani but now this from "the new york times," reporting trump, quote, didn't mention giuliani or his unpaid labor in the annual financial disclosure which requires that the value and s...