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Tweets over the last several days. he will try to turn the sheer weight of these investigations in his favor at least to disqualify them in the eyes of his base. >> david, when the -- go ahead. >> i just want to say, david made a very interesting point. i wonder whether you could flip it the other way. that is, up until now, the whole -- this whole controversy hinged upon finding collusion. now with so many investigations going on, is it as important as it was to find collusion? isn't there just such a stench? >> to that end, maybe you can answer this. if the mueller investigation wraps up, is...

Conspiracy is not a crime. it is a crime. and the president need not have known all of the ends of the experience. he need not all of what the russians were trying to do for his campaign, he need not know all of the collusion that was taking place or the obstruction of justice. it is still a crime. and there is a credible case now of obstruction of justice against the president of the united states. >> along those lines, rudy giuliani said yesterday of the possibility that the president would testify or answer questions from robert mueller. giuliani said over my dead body, but, you know, i cou...

This is the sheer weight of these investigations, on the one hand, looks very, very ominous. on the other hand, if you are donald trump and you are trying to make the case that this is just a political beatdown on him, the sheer weight of it actually works in his favor with his base, because he can say, look, every single way i turn, they are trying to bring the hammer down on me. so he is going to use that. you see it in this flury of tweets over the last several days. he will try to turn the sheer weight of these investigations in his favor at least to disqualify them in the eyes of his base...

Decide to sit for an interview with mueller's team against the advice of lawyers, watch. >> at the end of the day come he's the president he gets to make that decision. we are going to give our advice. but if you get a subpoena, you file what's called a motion, it would go to the district court and the court of appeals and in the supreme court of united states and from the supreme court, goes back down to the lower courts again. so if the special counsel makes a determination and gets the authority, they have to have the authority to seek that subpoena, a subpoena for live testimony has never ...

But also making sure that when you have troubled individuals we strip their access to all weapon s rather than taking all weapons from all individuals. maria: all right you know what we're going to leave it there because we're going to talk with john ratcliffe about this as well. the white house legal team apparently considering ways the president could testify before robert mueller. is this going to happen? >> well the special counsel has been in touch with the president 's personal attorneys and legal team. you know we're going to allow them to carry on that conversation as the white house a...