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Were dealing with this, that your own phones were being hacked ? how do you even go about talking to people if you feel that their phones have been compromised? i just wonder what are the nuts and bolts of that conversation? how do you actually reach out to somebody when you think that their phone has been hacked? it is incredibly hard. you have to have a face—to—face meeting and doing that in the midst of a pandemic is even more difficult. logistically speaking, i think this is probably the hardest project that i have ever been involved in. when talking to colleagues, when talking to edit...

Their methods were sound. i mean, were you concerned yourselves, paul, as you were dealing with this, that your own phones were being hacked? how do you even go about talking to people if you feel their phones have been compromised? i just wonder what are the nuts and bolts of that conversation? how do you actually reach out to somebody when you think that their phone has been hacked? it is incredibly hard. you have to have a face—to—face meeting and doing that in the midst of a pandemic is even more difficult. logistically speaking, i think this is probably the hardest project that i have...

Comey firing alone would be the basis of an obstruction case. moreover, the president has a good basis to argue, even his problems with jeff sessions did not amount to obstruction. i think that he is wrong about jeff sessions. i think that jeff sessions took the right step. i think that that was the ethical course to take. but the president can say that he felt that the fbi was hostile territory. and that's when he came into office and found out that the fbi was investigating him, he wanted to have one of his own people at the top of that investigation. now, that does not make for obstruction....

Michael, what? >> still trying to figure out exactly what it is on the "access hollywood" video that they want. what is it about it? because the narrative about the access would video is that trump didn't remember it, it wasn't something on their radar. it sort of pops up on that day in october and actually a remarkable day in october. that's a month before the election, the same day the obama administration calls out russia and the same day that john podesta's e-mails leaked. >> october 7th. >> and so the question is, is that what was michael cohen trying to do? we know that a focus of the in...

Michael schmidt broke that story. pete williams joins me now. michael, what? >> still trying to figure out exactly what it is on the "access hollywood" video that they want. what is it about it? because the narrative about the access would video is that trump didn't remember it, it wasn't something on their radar. it sort of pops up on that day in october and actually a remarkable day in october. that's a month before the election, the same day the obama administration calls out russia and the same day that john podesta's e-mails leaked. >> october 7th. >> and so the question is, is that what ...