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Doesn't relate to mexico, per se, but the president signed an executive order today that will limit all refugees, frankly, not allow any refugees for 120 days and maybe longer for syria. aren't walls an effective means of stemming the refugee crisis for certain european nations who otherwise would be overrun with the population they can't control? >> yes. they could be. unless you could just put in place a border which stops immigration from certain countries. i'm not saying these are not worthy solutions because buy some breathing time is probably a good idea in a lot of these circumstances. ...

Town planning master of philosophy, a doctorate for regional science at my alma mater penn. can it physically be built? >> of course it can be built physically. if you are prepared to spend millions and billions of dollars, anything's possible. if you remember the commitment to the american moon shot so long ago. we spent a lot of money and we made it. we can spend an awful lot of money and we can build a second wall. i hasten to add we already have a wall on the land boundary. i always like to preface the fact that we've got a wall in existence and the existence of that wall gives us a lot of...

And he feels -- he and i think the people around him, they feel like dhchina has played an utte he destructive game. >> i'll take the bait. is it possible that he's beating up on mexico, defenseless mexico so as to send a message to putin tomorrow? >> that would be a lovely thought. but the reason why i think that's not so is that in their minds, not in the minds of anybody who thinks about foreign policy seriously, china bad, russia good. so no, i don't think he's trying to send a message to putin. that's a separate conversation we can have about what he's going to say to putin. >> you come b...

Go on, news or whatever. he's our president. so let's, you know, we got to get together on this. >> i'm all for -- >> i got grandkids. >> i'm all for respecting him as the president of the united states, but there are a number of issues that i think are fair game. mary lou, he campaigned on that pledge to build the wall. >> i'm going to give you that. >> jim, hold on one second. i want to ask mary lou a question. he campaigned on the pledge to build a wall. who is going to pay for the wall? >> well, we are, but trump is, i believe, he's a man of his word. and he's also the businessman who has ...