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And the question arose to a lot of us what exactly are they trying to blend into in essentially you know, camo in the middle of a municipality outside st. louis. >> exactly. it's hard to communicate. we're all part of one community and this is about keeping everybody safe when you have that kind of dynamic. we want to strike a balance so a police force dealing with an active shooter or or terrible situation has the equipment they need but are prepared to use it wisely and well and that is what this report attempts to do. >> one of the things the president spoke about was this new data initiati...

Maximum of 12 candidates the problem at least 15 are expected to be in the race that means three would be cut but who? the likely sense is carly fiorana. she's the only woman in the field. but yes, just because of your gender doesn't mean you'll get on the debate stage. joining me. former president of the rna. michael. the first debate will be fox and they are the ones ending up making the call. put yourself in their shoes. how would you make the cut-off? >> you don't. you cannot make the cut-off in the first debate.

Grand to the first five people who drop out. >> i don't -- like the airline. we'll pay you not to run. >> they're going to honestly have to have more debates. i wouldn't be surprised, let's draw lots. squad "a" and squad "b" and we'll do two different debates. >> that's not a bad idea. if you're trying to cap it, trying to cap it is very hard -- >> it's a problem. >> it's a real problem. particularly because of the fiorina problem. she's polling towards the bottom. she would be the natural burn to be on the wrong side of the cut-off. >> you have bobby jindal problem as well. >> ben carson. if ...

>> say look, we're going to give $500,000 to the first five people who drop out. >> honestly, like i don't -- >> like an airline. they're going to having to have more debates. and i wouldn't be surprised if they figure out like let's draw lots. we have the squad a and squad b and we're just going to do two different debates. >> michael, i think that's actually not a terrible idea if you're talking about okay, we're not going to cap it. i think you're right. trying to cap it, it's very hard to see how. >> it's a problem. >> it's a real problem. it's particularly a problem because of the fiori...

Well he would do frankly in the republican primary. nothing against sam. >> i'd help my podcast. >> your podcast. that's minority report majority. >> majority report. >> you'll probably get it right when he advertises his podcast. here's another problem with the polling is that the polling this early is basically nonsense and will be for a long time. here's polling on republican primary voters favorable and unfavorable opinions of emily faris included in a public policy polling did this. emily faris doesn't exist. but 20% view her unfavorably because people are answering things because there's...