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The special counsel's investigation into the attack on our election in 2016. what do we know about the connection between this new effort and that effort that resulted in criminal charges? >> i can't verify that there is an actual connection between this usa really campaign and internet research agency. i learned about this yesterday at a cybersecurity conference here in washington. and the cybersecurity conference firm, fire eye, which is a very well-respected company, says there's a lot of open source intelligence that indicates that the two companies are very closely linked and it may just ...

I learned about this yesterday at a cybersecurity conference here in washington. and the cybersecurity conference firm, fire eye, which is a very well-respected company, says there's a lot of open source intelligence that indicates that the two companies are very closely linked and it may just be a reboot of the internet research agency but this isn't confirmed yet. >> do we know yet if this is part of a network of similar efforts or if this is being cross-promoted by other means of -- by other types of social media, if there are other websites like this that the same folks are operating? >> f...

Doesn't care that -- that they're not obfuscating what they're doing in trying to influence american public opinion. so i think that they're gambling that there are plenty of americans who would just as soon believe what russia says as what the mass media in the united states says. >> one of the really striking details in your reporting is the connection to the actual building address, the actual physical location in st. petersburg in russia that housed the internet research agency which was the subject of that robert mueller indictment and the special counsel's investigation into the attack o...

Intelligence that indicates that the two companies are very closely linked and it may just be a reboot of the internet research agency but this isn't confirmed yet. >> do we know yet if this is part of a network of similar efforts or if this is being cross-promoted by other means of -- by other types of social media, if there are other websites like this that the same folks are operating? >> fire eye knows that there's other domains using this name, usareally, that haven't been launched yet. so yes, it's clearly the beginning of something that's broader. of course there may be obfuscated other...

Can pick. something extremely important in 2018 and beyond. and yet we've seen just minimal moment in terms of that in terms of critical infrastructure defense. and so for whatever reason, really the obama or the trump administration, we made little progress in terms of cyber defense. >> you hinted at this, but i was struck by a quote that the fire eye chief executive officer kevin gave to our colleagues at cnbc saying the reality is if all of russia's cyber weapons wednesday gent us and all of our cyber weapons went against russia, he said they would win. now you just said we have the best of...