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Governors and congress members across the country, now he wants the spotlight on him and he's going to start talking more about his record, we're going to see him in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, the states that matter. martha: a lot of folks, because he's a midwestern candidate, doug, iowa most likely will be make or break in this situation. is that where he needs to put his focus now? >> that's absolutely rght, martha. he's got to break through in the first caucus state, which is iowa. he has one other advantage, which is that he's not a washington figure at a time when washington is ...

Social conservatives, i think that's an obstacle that he is overcome. martha: steve, what's your feeling on who emerges? i've asked people on what they think. who emerges in this? do you think the candidates for the gop nomination is somebody that's on this list we're looking at now? >> that's a great question. i think as doug points out, mitt romney obviously has to answer for the health care plan in massachusetts. i think he has a tough argument to make there. you've got the flaws in the other candidates. i still expect we will see somebody jump in who is not currently in the race or thought...

But basically, it's pretty even, you know? we've got a lot of folks in the teens, mike huckabee, mitt romney, sarah palin, newt gingrich, all between ten and 19 percent so far, nobody really lighting anything on fire steve. >> it's no coincidence those are the best known candidates that are either going to be in the race or would potentially be in the race and tim pawlenty is not a known commodity. that's a challenge for him but also an advantage. this is a guy who as governor was a strong spending cutter, he actually did this, he can point to his record as doing this, he vetoed 299 items duri...