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Criminal investigation is moving forward. meantime, the man who held the lease on that property is lashing out at claims that he allowed the residents or the warehouse to become an illegal residence and a fire trap. here's the end of his emotional interview this morning on nbc. >> i'd rather get on the floor and be trampled by the parents. i'd rather let them tear my flesh than answer these ridiculous questions. >> mr. -- >> i am sorry. i'm incredibly sorry. what do you want me to say? i'm not going to answer these questions. >> we will call this -- >> i'm just going to say that i am sorry. >>...

Both men are acquaintances and talked to each other on the internet over a period of years, but tonight is the first time they've met in person. >> gary tuchman, thanks very much. coming up, the death toll has risen to 36 in the oakland warehouse fire. it's no secret the building was a fire trap, a disaster waiting to happen. the latest on the investigation and we'll talk to the parents of one of the women who lost their life. what if a company that didn't make cars made plastics that make them lighter? the lubricants that improved fuel economy. even technology to make engines more efficient. ...

>> gary joins me now. this guy, the organizer you talked to, how well does he actually know richard spencer? >> reporter: well, anderson, wiggington says he's worked hard to make this event happen, but he's never met spencer in person. that is, until tonight, about one hour ago, when spencer arrived here in college, texas. both men are acquaintances and talked to each other on the internet over a period of years, but tonight is the first time they've met in person. >> gary tuchman, thanks very much. coming up, the death toll has risen to 36 in the oakland warehouse fire. it's no secret the bui...

Blame. there were no working smoke detectors or fire alarms in the house and badger says stanford allowed the children to live in a fire trap. they failed to require appropriate cert fixes, failed to review plans before issuing licenses and didn't follow up on failed inspections. all right, joey and fred is is there a case to be made that the city of stanford is responsible for the deaths of this beautiful family, three little girls and the grand parents? >> i mean you know what, judge, i really think so. and you can see the father's pain. this is horrific. no one would want to go through this...

There were no working smoke detectors or fire alarms in the house and badger says stanford allowed the children to live in a fire trap. they failed to require appropriate cert fixes, failed to review plans before issuing licenses and didn't follow up on failed inspections. all right, joey and fred is is there a case to be made that the city of stanford is responsible for the deaths of this beautiful family, three little girls and the grand parents? >> i mean you know what, judge, i really think so. and you can see the father's pain. this is horrific. no one would want to go through this. i thi...