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Public angst about a potential move by the white house. are you hearing that or is this a rumor mill out of control? >> i haven't heard it but as you were discussing on the previous segment, this is outrageous, reckless rhetoric, trying to undermine the rule of law, undermine the independent investigation by bob mueller, it's important to remind people he's a former fbi director, first appointed by republican president, is a republican himself, and the question for the trump administration and all these people who are engaging in this rhetoric, what are they afraid of? what are they afraid of ...

Nothing about. we don't know its conclusions, we don't know with any specificity its purpose, and all of us are proceeding as if this is normal. why is that normal? >> we need an independent investigation of whether russia colluded with trump to hack hillary. now, i think the first part of that has already been proven. russia did it. >> tucker: did what? >> did the hacking of the dnc and e-mails. >> tucker: is there evidence of that anywhere? have you seen, as a member of congress, have you seen any evidence? i know you are skeptical of the agency, they have spied on congress and not been puni...