Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140405:17:21:00
Be -- is not going to be served by that. >> but you also talk about the need for, despite what's happening right now, that we need to focus less on ukraine, and more on the broader ambitions of russia. so what do you think those ambitions are? >> well, i think we -- you know, this is not just about crimea. crimea is a symbol of what putin has in mind for russia. he seems to -- if not recreating the soviet union, certainly recreating some eastern power base. so i think it's very necessary that we need to hold the ukrainian closely. on one hand, certainly you have -- you want to have some kind o...