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Like carter page, the investigation of him, basically you have a counterterrorism tool. a tool used to protect us from terrorism instead used a fisa court, it's being used to spy on a presidential campaign, unprecedented. >> shannon: i want to recap. the president asked for tonight. declassified or release these things. portions of the carter page fisa application, fbi reports they had with bruce orr. and also the president said they want all these unredacted text release regarding the russian investigation. what do you think we will learn? >> you will find out that there was any collusion, it...

Dossier. also you will find out people like carter page, when no one could think of using a week with the russians, you have a counterterrorism tool use to protect us from terrorists being used to spy on an american campaign, presidential campaign, unprecedented in our history. >> so folks know -- the president asked for declassified for release these things, portions of the carter page fisa application, fbi reports of the interviews with bruce ohr in connection with the page fisa applications, the president says he wants all these unredacted text releases regarding the russia investigation co...

History repeating itself. we've seen that before when devin nunes released his memo which was about this underlying fisa application. that's what happened. when the redacted version of the fisa application was released in the summer, that's what happened. i'm sure that's likely that that's what would happen now, but the cost of that, of course, even if it might, you know, kind of expose the president -- expose more of the ties between the president's campaign and russia, the cost simply isn't worth that in terms of a tradeoff. i think -- i want to go back to one of the points jeremy made about...

>> i think they could make public the deep concern over the way the president is pursuing this in the same way dni coats stepped forward after the putin/trump summit and said, look, we believe the word of u.s. intelligence over the word of the kgb successor organizations as the president said in helsinki. and so there may be moments, nicolle, when i think the men and women of the intelligence community and justice department actually take a very firm stand against the president. >> matt miller, i talked to an outside adviser of the president's today. i said, what does he want in this fisa appl...

Director chris wray. not that they need any more tests, but christopher wray has said he has steel in his spine. i believe in an interview with lester holt. and the deputy attorney general has talked about not being extorted under fierce questioning from some of the president's most fringey allies, if you will, on the house intel committee. how important is this test for mr. rosenstein and mr. wray? >> it's important to them for two reasons. one, just for the -- to protect the information that's contained in this fisa application to make sure it doesn't expose ongoing investigations, expose an...