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Simplify them, but the fact that the two principles, and it really is the president and the speaker, who will do this deal, spent some time alone having seen the two of them in the past when we went through the 2011 negotiations, they have respect for each other. they like each other. they will be able to do a deal together. i think the meeting yesterday was extremely important. is this a nonstarter for the white house? >> well, i'm not obviously speaking on behalf of the white house, so i think it is -- there are always the options and especially when you are down to the final three weeks. i ...

Let's bring in the panel. steve hayes, senior writer for "weekly standard." a.b. stoddard associate editor of the hill. syndicated columnist, charles krauthammer. steve, look at the numbers and you can see what elmendorf said today and put it in political perspective. >> it's scary. it's a virtual certainty that nothing will be done about this before the election. everybody is operating as if nothing will be done because it doesn't make sense politically for either party to do this. the problem with the fiscal cliff among others including the fact it would end us in recession as suggested, mai...

Instructions. i think it's 88 pages to fill out the two pages. something's wrong here, right? >> yes. we could use a simpler system if the president said. the right strategy for the country is both for individuals and businesses to put in place reforms that would simplify the system, make it easier for people to meet their obligation as citizens, lower rates and broaden the base. and lower the rates. >> why hasn't the president put forth a real plan, the focus this week, the buffett rule is to tax wealthier americans to ensure your vision of fairness in the tax code but you're not taking a bro...

Over 100,000 indirect jobs. time for the president to say yes and as i said all options are on the table. >> chris: will the house pass a budget this year and will it have serious entitlement reform in it again such as last year's proposal by paul ryan for premium supports as a way to change and reform medicare? >> that was one option on how we could save medicare. there are other ideas paul ryan and ron widen, democratic senator from oregon came up with a bipartisan proposal. the idea is we have to make changes to medicare otherwise it will not be there for seniors who count on it. we will do...

Over 100,000 indirect jobs. time for the president to say yes and as i said all options are on the table. >> chris: will the house pass a budget this year and will it have serious entitlement reform in it again such as last year's proposal by paul ryan for premium supports as a way to change and reform medicare? >> that was one option on how we could save medicare. there are other ideas paul ryan and ron widen, democratic senator from oregon came up with a bipartisan proposal. the idea is we have to make changes to medicare otherwise it will not be there for seniors who count on it. we will do...