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Victoria toensing, we have known for awhile she has the ear of the president. it's safe to say she was personally lobbying president trump for this pardon. >> she won't comment on conversations that they had, but that is my understanding, that she has brought this up verbally with the president. yes. >> and it's also again, according to the statement we got from the white house a short time ago, the president saying in this statement that he does not know mr. libby personally. that's also your understanding? >> i don't have any information whatsoever about his relationship with scooter libby. ...

Today. >> a justification for that, he also said, is the investigation of the senate, the house intelligence committee and the special counsel investigation into russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. as cia director he's been involved in that and he can't comment. shep? >> shepard: thanks, rich. live on the hill. let's get to a.b. stoddard from real clear politics. i was waiting to hear what would ha happened with rand paul and his questioning of pompeo. he's been very pointed about his criticisms. >> right. rand paul is still an outlier in terms of the republican conference....

Defamation. >> losing her high profile attorney gloria allred. she frequently represents women in cases saying our withdrawal has nothing to do with the merits against president trump. we will have no comment regarding the reasons for our firm's withdrawal. we continue to wish summer the very best in her pursuit of justice. >> i decided to part ways we gloria allred purely for personal reasons, having nothing to do with her work as my attorney i look forward to my day in court with my current legal team. >> zervos said she won't comment. we've been talking about how many her lawyer has been wo...

He feels a kinship with him. and that roy moore is being victimized here. and so this is a way of him connecting to that and convincing himself that, well, that could not have possibly been me, because that means i was wrong and i was publically humiliated the way roy moore is. this is why he won't comment on roy moore, because it illuminates what he did. he can't sit there and condemn roy moore when it's what he did. >> and maybe he regrets the apology. >> i think he does. >> i think to say he feels a kinship with roy moore over this means that he also by definition must feel a kinship with a...

Victimized here. and so this is a way of him connecting to that and convincing hums thconvince i ing himself that, well, that could not have possibly me, because that means i was wrong and i was publicly humiliated the way roy moore is. this is why he won't comment on roy moore, because it illuminates what he did. he can't sit there and condemn roy moore when it's what he did. >> and maybe he regrets the apology. >> i think he does. >> i think to say he feels a kinship with roy moore over this means that he also by definition must feel a kinship with al franken or conyers or anybody else. i'm ...