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We can't let it default, and basically hold us in jeopardy. with that being said, how do you use this moment? do you come to the responsibility? what are we paying for interest? for ten years, it was zero, it was funny money. it didn't put any burden. we were basically not harming how we have to meet that debt through our interest rates. now we're talking real money on interest rates. we're -- i guess i come back to, what is the moment to force this -- >> this is a moment -- if kevin mccarthy coming in new says, okay, it's serious, and he takes it from the standpoint. >> what does he need to d...

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The president's ability to clain default. even if you didn't go to it default, what would happen in y the market and economy as a result of that. >> gentlemen, what's going to happen? >> iou think you probably get a form of out this, but i would like to emphasize the fact that republicans may not have a perfect strategy or tactics right now doesn't mean they're right on the underlying ere argument. we have too many entitlements and here's another one.ma i don't think the fact that c barack obama passed this law means it can never be changed. >> no, of course not, but the question is about the ...