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Should stick to their guns, demand the spending cuts we need. and if they do not get them that the default happen, do you agree that position? sooner or later there will be a deal for neither party wants to be responsible for being the one to be blamed for america going into default. long-term the only way to solve this is to deal with the so-called entitlement programs for that's medicare, medicaid, social security, obamacare and a few others. donald trump when he ran 2006 he did not talk about the entitlement programs he knew politically as a debt issue. whenever you raise those they're goin...

Steve: the specific proposal is constitutional amendment to fix spending at a proportion of gdp. >> that will take time. the biggest part of the president has of course i need to explain this to the american people. once they get the book pressure on the local politicians are due this remembered ross perot was running and the elite 80s and early '90s he took out tv time talked about the debt and deficit. i'm in my office building the next day two janitors were tied my debt and deficit. it is going to take consistent communication, edging educating people on the issue that is a solution i propo...

Clear he said the republicans should stick to their guns, demand the spending cuts we need. and if they do not get them that the default happen, do you agree that position? sooner or later there will be a deal for neither party wants to be responsible for being the one to be blamed for america going into default. long-term the only way to solve this is to deal with the so-called entitlement programs for that's medicare, medicaid, social security, obamacare and a few others. donald trump when he ran 2006 he did not talk about the entitlement programs he knew politically as a debt issue. wheneve...

Steve: the specific proposal is constitutional amendment to fix spending at a proportion of gdp. >> that will take time. the biggest part of the president has of course i need to explain this to the american people. once they get the book pressure on the local politicians are due this remembered ross perot was running and the elite 80s and early '90s he took out tv time talked about the debt and deficit. i'm in my office building the next day two janitors were tied my debt and deficit. it is going to take consistent communication, edging educating people on the issue that is a solution i propo...

What you say is not true you are going to jail. we need to act like what we expect from our children, which is comebliance and personal responsibility and accountability. we just do not do that. >>neil: so, senator you were in the gang of six, part of the bipartisan gang of six to fix spending, and you were frustrated. did you actually quit the gang and was it over this medicare issue? you wanted additional savings? >>guest: i do want additional medicare savings and i want us to pass a bill. i did not quit, i am on a break, to see how it works. >>neil: so now there is a gang of five? >>guest: ...