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About how they handle it and what you hear democratic candidates say now is it's a good plan, we need to fix it, acknowledging there are things that need to change. hard to do when republicans won't get on board -- >> i think what you're hearing more and more democrats say it's a good plan, there are problems that need to be fixed, and that's what we are trying to do while the other side is trying to break it. the other side is trying to kill the plan and going so far as to shut the government down causing a $24 billion hit to our economy. that's not the solution. the solution is to strengthen...

You never hear this. all you hear is redistribute wealth, give people money rather than design a program where they become educated and self-sufficient for life. >> absolutely. and right now local control of education, which has worked in this country for 200 years is just simply ebbing. it is almost to the point now that it's difficult for a school district to combat a teacher's union, to combat federal money. >> bill: chicago, look at that chicago is hemorrhaging money and the teachers are going we want to make 100 grand a year, if you don't pay it, we're not coming back. >> to your point, a...

You never hear this. all you hear is redistribute wealth, give people money rather than design a program where they become educated and self-sufficient for life. >> absolutely. and right now local control of education, which has worked in this country for 200 years is just simply ebbing. it is almost to the point now that it's difficult for a school district to combat a teacher's union, to combat federal money. >> bill: chicago, look at that chicago is hemorrhaging money and the teachers are going we want to make 100 grand a year, if you don't pay it, we're not coming back. >> to your point, a...

Has been so disheartening. but in terms of the way you've written about this personally, you feel like there's still room to innovate, there's still room to fix stuff, even with the federal barriers? should have a three or four-year, that way republicans and democrats the same district merit representation. and there's also room for independen independence. why is that important? we just redistricted our states here and it was basically insider, the same old operators, business as usual, they j

we also have ron brownstein and will cain, nephew of herman cain. >> brother from another mother. >> roland martin here shaking his head. >> oh, my goodness. way too much soul in here. >> haven't seen him since the family reunion. >> right. >> we have a lot to talk about this morning. we have former new hampshire governor john sununu is going to join us, the chairman is going to be here as well. former -- we're going to talk to you about this big announcen't about who you are endorsing which honestly confused the heck out of me. virginia governor bob mcdonald is going to be with us a...