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Example? would you be willing to go to a merritt-based immigration system? >> jake, i held my nose and very reluctantly voted for some money for a border wall. that's what we voted for. we couldn't get even that legislation passed, because it protected the young people in daca, we had minimal amount of republican support. but let us be very clear. what the president is now trying to do is to divide the american people up, whether it is in this case immigration, whether it is the needs of african-americans, whether it is the needs of minorities in general. what he's trying to do is divide us up...

But the daca program. >> we had a bipartisan bill and there is a procedure called discharge petition. we got -- >> discharge petition forces the bill on to the floor. >> 216 votes. we needed two more republicans. this was bipartisan, an agreement with democrats and republicans and paul ryan would not allow the two -- >> i think the bill that eventually is the right way to go is what we had under president bush. the big sticking issue was path to citizenship. so democrats want a path to citizenship. republicans don't. what do you think undocumented immigrants want? you think they are saying i w...

>> he did not create dreamers. he created the daca -- >> because he couldn't pass -- >> he couldn't have done that. >> we had a bipartisan bill, and you know, there's a procedure called a discharge petition. and we got and we need -- >> just to explain, the discharge petition forces the bill. >> on to the floor. 216 votes. we needed two more republicans. this was bipartisan and it was an agreement upon -- with democrats and republicans, and paul ryan would not allow the two -- >> will they let that bill on to the floor for a vote? >> i think the bill that eventually is the right way to go is w...

The last bill we had that didn't pass was 700 pages. >> i worked on comprehensive immigration. >> this will be the last two presidents, your former boss, george w. bush, and barack obama, both were willing to make compromise and embrace immigration reform and could not get it through congress because of the hard liners in the house republican party. is it not possible that in the way that only nixon could go to china, that only trump could actually get those to come along. >> let me say this. both sides. both sides. i saw it in 2006. >> i'm talking about the legislative process. >> republicans...

This is in conflict with the idea donald trump ran on that we should have a secure border and he is meeting with republican gop. fixing daca is part of that but he wants to end chain migration and the visa lottery program and fund the border wall. rob: what is the incarceration rate of average american citizens? >> if you look at the numbers when it comes to americans in this country, 13% of daca recipients, one in 3 for american citizens, triple the number of daca recipients, you have a blindfold that seems to come off when it comes to people of color and my problem with reported implies peop...