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When there's not an incident. >> exactly, there's never a good time to have the debate. you don't have the debate when nothing happens, then when the worst mass shooting in modern american history happens, if you don't talk about it then, when are you going to talk about it? >> a lot of people feel the debate ended after newton when you had 20 children killed, and there was no legislation, no action in the wake of that. what is different this time? it is the worst mass shooting, but the politics haven't changed. >> i want to go to something else that peggy noonan brought up. she goes, we need ...

That's a fact of life. >> are you okay if this ends up being a regulatory change by atf, or does this have to be caudified by congress, if your view? >> in my view, it has to be caudified by congress. it can be changed any time. look, how many events do we want to have happen with these devices now before we do something about it? >> the california republican party has been calling on you to return or donate to charity campaign contributions you've received in the past from harvey weinstein, the movie mogul. there is some explosive sexual allegations against him. do you plan to do that or have...

Welcome back. earlier we mentioned the wash, rinse, repeat feeling we got watching the trump administration this week. nbc news ran a multiple sourced story that secretary of state rex tillerson called president trump a moron and that tillerson had to be talked out of quitting. the state department denied parts of story, tillerson denied only the quitting part. is mike pompeo being considered as tillerson's replacement? is john kelly really talking about leaving? the white house dismisses all of it as rumors but the west wing leaks and conversations only adds to the sense of turmoil in the adm...

Gun out of two broken hotel windows. every american should look at those pictures and say, do we want more of this? this is one simple thing that stops the making of a semiautomatic weapon into a machine gun. >> let me ask you this. give me the slate of laws that if you could wave your wand and have enacted that could have prevented vegas. >> well, i don't know. i would have to take a good look at that and really study it. i'm not sure there is any set of laws that could have prevented it. i do know this, that we have a second amendment. there's been difference over its interpretation by the c...

They're used properly. but what i have seen over the decades is a growth of substantial improper use of weapons, beginning with the texas bell tower. you've seen law offices, you've seen businesses, you've seen movie theaters, you've seen high schools, you've seen colleges, you've seen a primary school with first graders in it, 20 of them killed, and now you see a great american classic, which is country music, people by the thousands out in a safe place with a big hotel in the background, and somebody comes along. he has been legal, he's gotten his weapons legally, he has 40 weapons, he has 1...