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I can because we sort of understood the way we came to that story and we understood that first statement was drafted or we understand dictated by the president as he flew back from a trip to europe. and our understanding it was sort of this scrambled frenzy on air force one to come up with a statement, with the president really taking the lead in dictating it. so that sort of statement, problematic statement that arose from such chaos, i'm not surprised some of that frenetic energy is still continuing onto this day. >> matt, remind us, one aide resigned because of his exposure to this effort, ...

Others make mistakes, you don't know who is sitting near you. >> martha: someone providing the trump team with flash cards, these are the reporters you want to know the face of. >> either that or be smart and don't talk about your client's case unless you are in a place that you know is secure. >> martha: what about the underlying issue they were debating, whether it is wiser for the trump team put everything out there, any documents that are asked for so you're not up against a subpoena or whether they should old things closer to the vest. >> it is complicated. i was a u.s. attorney for seven...

What does that mean? >> it means like less fun and more class time. feel like george washington was a huge class clown. that's why our country is what it is today. so you're not disappointed in preschoolers? >> no. the silliest thing i've heard. >> education goes so fast. start them as young as you can. >> stop me when it sounds too hard. >> geometry. >> too hard. >> that's what they're doing. >> i'd be impressed. >> you have your whole life to study hard. it's preschool. it's not navy seal training. >> as soon as you're out of the womb, flash cards in your baby face. >> no. i think you're bei...

Now, let's "the herd" stop. you know who is probably as harsh against bill clinton's accusers than anybody? donald trump. donald trump attacked monica lewinsky's look. donald trump attacked paula jones personally. donald trump attacked ken starr, thought the whole thing -- the best spinner, if you're the clinton campaign was donald trump circa 1999. when you say he's the wrong messenger, on a number of levels he's the wrong messenger to effectively try to orchestrate this strategy. >> chris matthews is in st. louis. chris, when you hear that a candidate has summoned approvaling press pool to h...

>> i am curious what debate coaches are doing now for the candidates. if you were coaching candidates for tonight, are you drilling them? going through flash cards? letting them relax? what is the strategy? >> i think for today you want them focused but not too tight. i don't think there is much heavy drilling today. it is basically a day where you be refocus them and get them prepared on their message. talk through your strategy. like a football team would go through a walk through on the day of the game, you would do that and make sure they have something on the schedule to get them warmed u...