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I think that certainly could have been other people who knew what he was up to. >> jeremy bash, what do you make of this manafort development? how important do you think it is in this broader context? we were talking off camera about other things you think play into this narrative this week. >> i think in terms of the manafort convenientment, look, if the information was public polling data, they wouldn't have to share it in the sensitive channel. they could have read it in the newspaper. it seems more than likely it was pry .tory analysis the way they viewed the electorate and opportunities t...

Sque of how do you g question, how do you get out of this? if the president opens the government back up without border security money, the right wing will go nuts. at the same point in times, if democrats in congress, if pelosi puts a bill on the floor and they're forced to vote for funding, their base is going to go nuts. so as a consequence of each being driven by each party's base. republicans are right, look, democrats have voted for border security in the past but the past is the past. look, foyer got all about sean spicer. i totally forgot about him until you brought that quote up. >> o...

Syria, because the president has been claiming that the u.s. has won against isis. there's even been a suggestion that the president doesn't necessarily think that this is an important idea for the use. he said, you know, he's opposed to endless wars. what is your take on the president's latest rhetoric around this? >> i think it's wrong. if you look at the facts, nobody's calling for another 150,000 troops in syria. only one hand people say we need to fight war a different way. let's use the people who are gnattive there there on the ground. let's use special forces. when we do that, which we...

Probably. but i don't think it's the right thing to do. vladimir putin is an enemy of the united states. this administration in many ways has been pretty aggressive against the russians but this is something i just don't quite understand there's this hesitancy to attack vladimir putin personally. i want to get all of the information but it certainly would not make me happy if that's in fact what's going on. >> what do you make of the fbi's decision to announce this counterintelligence investigation? do you think it was an overstep on the part of the fbi, or does it concern you that they felt t...

They will try to find other way they will need the wall. >> so their own policy is causing the problem, self-inflicted. >> i think it's an indication it's about the wall for the president, not actually about the facts on the ground, which is what will be the best thing, which effectively a wallboarder agents say is low on their list and why democrats are looking at canada and say, look, if this is about terrorism, we should put the wall around canada. the only terrorists to come across came through the canadian board h border, not the mexican one. so the democrats are trying to box the preside...