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Science grounds. it's very unusual for the secretary of state to talk about flat earthers and amazing if they had that much conviction about the people killed ensyria. if they would focus on the geneva talks. we were closing to an international agreement with climate change with the asian pacific region. there's no policy answer that john kerry is offering right now. >> bob, how do you explain that? of all the things in the world right now, john kerry figures this is the best thing to spend his time on? >> let me say, we get in fights about this, so let's say there are those of us who agree wi...

Default deniers. those who argue that we can avoid default by paying some debt but not others. that it could stabilize world markets. how can you argue with flat earthers. also universal outrage for the cutting off of military aid for families. and how would a hostage negotiator get us out of this mess. the daily show has an idea on that. and finally, let me finish with a story of where i came from politically. this is "hardball," the place for politics.

Crime, hundreds and thousands of fewer murders, fewer rapes. what you don't have reported in the news is the fact that those states that put in concealed carry laws decades ago and have more people carrying guns are safer to live in than ones that ban it. so when you ask why don't we do something stupid, the answer is because we have looked at the statistics, because we have looked at the science, and flat earthers should not be passing new laws. >> how do you explain that as i said to mr. feldman earlier, america has between 11,000 and 12,000 gun murders a year, 18,000 gun suicides a year, 10...

Because we have looked at the statistics, because we have looked at the science, and flat earthers should not be passing new laws. >> how do you explain that as i said to mr. feldman earlier, america has between 11,000 and 12,000 gun murders a year, 18,000 gun suicides a year, 100,000 americans are hit by gunfire a year. and you look at someone like britain or australia or japan or i could name dozens of other countries that have pretty strict gun control laws, and just have negligible gun deaths. literally, like 40 or 50 people a year get killed. how do you explain that, grover, in any ration...

You'll find they also have more crime and more shootings. there's actually, if you look at the science, liberals are always saying we should look at the science, yet they don't want to look at the existing science on whether gun laws make us safer or less safe. john lock did the first study of all the counties in united states and where you had concealed carry permits, more gun ownership by citizens, you actually had significantly less crime, hundreds and thousands of fewer murders, fewer rapes. what you don't have reported in the news is the fact that those states that put in concealed carry ...