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Are going to do is lead to bigger deficits. and empirically tax cuts do not create jobs. there's a long list of research papers that show that tax cuts don't work and our tax rates are not the highest in the world, they are stated, but when you figure in deductions and figure in freebies that corporations are giveni. david: i agree with you on one thing, the deductions that corporations and republicans and other tax cutters want to do is eliminate those and flat rate for corporate. and eliminate the deductions. >> the reality check in this conversation, tax hikes have demolished small business...

This country. there's nothing the president has presented thus far democrats should agree with. >> awe drawn, we listed a bunch of really outstanding issues, healthcare, taxes, the spending bill. as a republican what do you want the president and your gop lawmakers to focus on most? what should be the priority? >> well, i wish they hadn't of jumped on obamacare. look, the democrats are going to have to own it. if it continues to go back, more of them are going to want to try to work with the republicans to fix it. i think first off they should have worked on tax reform. you get the corporate t...

I urge people to go to the website. they're the most respected organization analyzing. >> a quick final word, steve. >> you know, on this issue about the corporations not paying the high tax rate. >> he's not talking about the personal tax rate. >> we have the highest statutory rate in the world. >> that doesn't matter. >> the effective rate is 21%. >> sorry, steve. you get the final word. >> what i'm saying is some companies pay tax rates of close to 0 and other corporations are paying 40. that's a terrible tax system. we want to get rid of the loopholes and maybe everybody company pay a low,...

Plan increases federal debt more than the current policy resulting in less economic growth. do you agree with that asse assessme assessment? >> they are totally wrong. there's nothing like economic growth to reduce the deficit and stop the accumulation of debt. he's going to get rid of the inheritance tax and personal income tax rates, 100% expensing of capital purchases, what's not to love about that from the standpoint of economics, it's just beautiful. it's exactly what this patient needs in the u.s. we need this type of ee lix ir to get america growing again. >> do you see it as being real...

Make ends meet. it is an aggressively pro-growth plan. and one of the great advantages of a single flat rate 10% for everyone is that it lets everyone fill out their taxes on a postcard. which enables us to abolish the irs. and this simple flat tax means we also abolish the payroll tax. we apolish the corporate income tax. we abolish the death tax, the alternative minimum tax and abolish the obamacare taxes. and that means you don't have washington politicians picking winners and losers, deciding we're going to favor this group over the other group. you no longer have billionaire hedge fund ma...