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Workers. like every other candidate, he'll be considered, i'm not making that decision. my executive counsel, my members in each state help make that decision. it is not rich's decision, it is the membership's decision. >> neil: you are also the big chief, this doesn't happen without you weighing in, right? >> no, they make that decision. they actually do. i didn't -- endorse any of the candidates running today. >> neil: let me step back and understand, do you think things look good for the economy right now? >> depeppeds on where you sit. if you are a worker, things are still not good for the...

Then the average american, we've had flat wages for working class americans for 40 years now. we have 3.9% employment. lowest it's been since 2000 and the wages are still -- steve: a huge point. we can keep the conversation going with the next guest. they brought this argument home as it were. they've been going around the country traveling. interviewing trump voter to find out what brought about the stunning 2016 election upset and they're here next. author of the new book "the great revolt." don't go away.

Then the average american, we've had flat wages for working class americans for 40 years now. we have 3.9% employment. lowest it's been since 2000 and the wages are still -- steve: a huge point. we can keep the conversation going with the next guest. they brought this argument home as it were. they've been going around the country traveling. interviewing trump voter to find out what brought about the stunning 2016 election upset and they're here next. author of the new book "the great revolt." don't go away.

Stepping into a world few women enter. >> one time elizabeth invited us to have lunch at the harvard faculty club. i had never been there before. you look around and you say, we're the only women here. >> the 1980s and '90s are a time when more and more americans go broke. the ivy league professor is asked to sit on a commission to review bankruptcy laws in 1995. >> it starts with flat wages. it goes to rising health care costs, rising housing costs, costs of getting a kid educated. how the middle class starts coming under a squeeze. bankruptcy is the tail end of that. >> it would lead to her ...

Stepping into a world few women enter. >> one time elizabeth invited us to have lunch at the harvard faculty club. i had never been there before. you look around and you say, we're the only women here. >> the 1980s and '90s are a time when more and more americans go broke. the ivey league professor is asked to sit on a commission to review bankruptcy laws in 1995. >> it starts with flat wages. it goes to rising health care costs, rising housing costs, costs of getting a kid educated. how the middle class starts coming under a squeeze. bankruptcy is the tail end of that. >> it would lead to her...