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Fact, the very fact that bush was named as vice president, if you remember, back in 1980, reagan was enamored with what i think everybody ended up thinking was a terrible idea, of a kind of copresidency was gerald ford. he was involved in negotiations in detroit at the republican national convention, and then it all fell apart. suddenly, wednesday night, they don't have a vice president. obviously, bush had run the strongest race, had gotten the most delegates, second only to reagan, and reagan come at the last minute decided, let's go with bush. so it was not his first choice but i think that...

And we are in this age where it is such a partisan time, that this moment seems like it cuts through all of that, doesn't it? >> juan: it really does. it stands in stark contrast to this moment. i just want to emphasize something you said, bret, that while he was president, this is someone, given his experience on capitol hill, who was regularly going up to capitol hill, and talking to democrats. today, the way things are so separate, we don't even have those conversations between republicans and democrats, sometimes not even among people of the same party. but imagine that the president of th...

Meant. i finally figured out, "former leader of free world.com." that was kind of the light way in which george h.w. bush obviously, he took the presidency seriously, but he didn't take himself seriously. the idea flfw.com was his email address. >> shannon: very lighthearted. we talk about just how much he loved to joke, a good punch line, even if it was that as his expense. he accomplished so much on the world stage that it's impossible to go through his entire resume and to remind people about all the things he did domestically and internationally, and what a brave navy aviator he was, going...

And we are in this age where it is such a partisan time, that this moment seems like it cuts through all of that, doesn't it? >> juan: it really does. it stands in stark contrast to this moment. i just want to emphasize something you said, bret, that while he was president, this is someone, given his experience on capitol hill, who was regularly going up to capitol hill, and talking to democrats. today, the way things are so separate, we don't even have those conversations between republicans and democrats, sometimes not even among people of the same party. but imagine that the president of th...

And we are in this age where it is such a partisan time, that this moment seems like it cuts through all of that, doesn't it? >> juan: it really does. it stands in stark contrast to this moment. i just want to emphasize something you said, bret, that while he was president, this is someone, given his experience on capitol hill, who was regularly going up to capitol hill, and talking to democrats. today, the way things are so separate, we don't even have those conversations between republicans and democrats, sometimes not even among people of the same party. but imagine that the president of th...