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I had never heard him using his singing against him. by the way, they used it again and again. >> if you say the 2012 campaign, it is very likely you will get someone singing an off key version of "america the beautiful." >> the big problem we had and i think what the obama campaign tried to use to their advantage was that this is -- mitt romney is not somebody who you can identify with. with the heart of that ad was that nobody watching that ad has accounts in the caymens. it just seemed, you know, something with them that they could not identify with. it made it their point much easier. >> i...

And again. i could not escape it. >> you remember the campaign, that's -- if you say the 2012 campaign, it is very likely to get someone singing an off-key version of "america the beautiful." >> what we tried to use to the advantage is mitt romney's not somebody you can identify with and the heart of the ad is nobody watching that ad has, you know, accounts in the kcaymans and seemed they could not identify with and their point. >> stephanie, the negative ad with a light touch. >> right. >> you know? that always is the most effective. a light touch. >> it's a juxtaposition. here he is singing ...

I could not take it. >> when you remember the campaign -- if you say the 2012 campaign, it's likely you will get somebody singing an off-key version of "america the beautiful." >> the big problem we had, what the obama campaign tried to use to their advantage, mitt romney is not something you can identify with. the heart of that ad was nobody watching that ad has accounts in the caymans. a lot of it was very -- seemed something that they could not identify with him. >> what was interesting, it was a negative ad with a light touch. you know, that always is the most effective. >> it was the perf...

Pew. born again. >> southern. >> mika, i think it's time to go to news. >> either that or we could break out the moonshine. with 25 days to go until the year-end fiscal cliff, president obama and speaker boehner spoke on the phone yesterday for the first time in days. both men agreed not to publicly characterize how the conversation went. i think that's smart. >> that's a good idea, too. >> but the stalemate in the negotiations entered new territory yesterday with, once again, treasury secretary tim geithner. >> he's got a light touch. >> he needs to step away, step away from the table. sugges...

Affect almost every part of our economy, because energy goes into the production, pretty much everything. you're talking about ozone air quality standards and carbon standards and greenhouse gas emissions and maybe fracking on federal land, fracking be the high drawlic fracturing technique that leads to oil and gas production. that's regulated by the state. are you saying that the fed wants to get in on the act and preempt the states? >> i think it's a possibility, paul, yes. >> paul: so that would complicated drilling decisions by companies and potentially add to costs even though it's been a...