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Political reporter, nia malika henderson as well as political reporter sarah murray. knni nia, right after this happened, jeb bush put out a statement attacking clinton calling her a flip-flopper saying she'll say anything to get elected. what i saw in that statement was not only this is a presidential race but it seems she may have hit a nerve a bit on this immigration question during this interview. why is that? >> that's right. she hit a nerve. she's tap-dancing on this. flash back to 2012, we remember when mitt romney talking about immigration reform and illegal talking about self-deportat...

On the part of families. that tone is very different than he is taking now. >> do you think the people are served by the hearings of who changes position and who doesn't? isn't there something to be said to evolving? >> if you are talking gay marriage almost everybody is a flip-flopper. if you are talking about immigration, that tends to be thornier. voters tend to believe that a lot of politicians are flip-floppers. that accusation has to relate to something else. in hillary clinton's case there has been an issue about character, about trust that has been building against her. brianna raised ...

Hillary's words. she was trying to clarify a fast evolving changing position. and hillary clinton denied the obvious. so now she looks like a flip-flopper. now she looks like someone who won't tell us where she really stands on issues. now she looks like somebody who's only being an opportunist. that's not terry gross's fault, not barack obama's fault, not the media fault, that's hillary clinton's fault. >> i'm not sure i completely agree with you -- >> i'm stun. >> if even you're being attacked in an interview and i'm not saying she was being attacked but the gift of a skilled politician is t...

You're a flip-flopper since the fact that you flip-flopped out of the republican party to become a democrat. what would you say to critics about that? >> that's not going to hold because i have not flip-flopped on the issues. i have a 30-year record that i welcome the voters to scrutinize how solid a. on issues using environmental laws, clean air, clean water, fiscal responsibility, keeping us out of quagmires overseas. on and on. i've been very consistent. i've been a liberal republican in the past and now i'm broward to be a democrat. >> if you wanted to stay -- i'm proud to be a democrat. >...

However, i do find it a bit rich for her to proclaim herself a feminist by standing by her cad. i mean, shouldn't she have walked away saying i don't need this, i can be my own woman? she would have been president sooner. >> i don't think that's fair. it's not for any of us to talk about what goes on in anybody's marriage. >> i agree. i agree. but i am anyway. i am a hypocrite. that's what tv is for. to hold one belief privately and say something opposite. >> or even within 30 seconds of when i challenged it. you flip-flopped like that. >> i agree. no, i disagree. >> he's an adorable little fl...