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Do you want to have this -- i suspect it may be the entire first 30 minutes of the conversation. it's not like you can start somewhere else. it is -- it's overtaken everything. i imagine it will be -- but i'll be honest, i have flow idea. nothing would surprise me today. it wouldn't surprise me if somebody convinces trump not to show up to the debate. if i were him, i might not. >> we'll let that be the last word. chuck todd, joe watkins, rick taylor, many thanks. breaking news, we're following in south carolina, hurricane matthew which is taking direct aim at charleston and the damage -- we...

>> that's way over my head. what is that? >> and you're 6'5" -- >> i have flow idea. >> it was like i was thrown a marcus colston. i was jumping out there. the idea that we would have people there checking if there was lead in our -- >> protecting the folks using the federal government's power. he's made strides in doing that? you know, that's a pretty smart analysis. a lot of people don't think you're smart. >> thank you very much. >> did your writer come up with that, or did you -- >> no, they're in my pocket. >> when you deliver stuff, are you cognizant of the fact that your audience are pr...

>> no, but i don't know if my expectations were fair to that individual. i believed that we were at a more tranformative time. and so -- but i've come to respect a certain steady not of his craft that i don't necessarily agree with. i think he had an opportunity more in the reagan mold to be a little bit more of a bully pulpit president than what appears to be -- which is more of a -- a tip o neil president, like a legislative worker. more of a -- someone who understands a bureaucratic method as opposed to something that's more, you know, teddy roosevelt, ronald reagan type -- >> didn't unders...