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That's a huge discrepancy. so are you suggesting that they don't know what they're doing? or you have two very different opinions? or maybe they're not being as forthcoming for obvious reasons? >> well, i have seen the description of bp's number. and their methodology isn't clear. so i can't really say one way or the other that their number is wrong. but i can say -- one thing that i can say for sure, i'm looking at a snapshot in time. this 30-second snapshot of this video that they posted. and during that 30-second time period, i see a flow rate of 70,000 barrels a day. plus or minus 14. so i...

It's hard to understand how these things can work. >> it's a great thing to ask, the flow rate alone of that oil and the natural gas coming out is just ridiculous. and trying to get the first option, just the tube to cover that, is going to be really, really difficult. the question is to have three undersea robots. the thing you talked about at the top of the show, those chemical dispersants. they wanted to check it out. they wanted to get a better understanding of if it was this harmful. they are now allowing the b.p. and the coast guard is going to allow the epa to use it once again. they sp...

So are you suggesting that they don't know what they're doing? or you have two very different opinions? or maybe they're not being as forthcoming for obvious reasons? >> well, i have seen the description of bp's number. and their methodology isn't clear. so i can't really say one way or the other that their number is wrong. but i can say -- one thing that i can say for sure, i'm looking at a snapshot in time. this 30-second snapsho and during that 30-second time period, i see a flow rate of 70,000 barrels a day. plus or minus 14. so it could be as low as 56 or as high as 84. but i'm quite conf...

Arm, like having a compress. they would take a layer of mud and put that on top of it and cap that off with a layer of concrete. those are the three options they are looking at today. the first one, of course, the pipe, 6-inch pipe will take place today. all eyes are watching that closely. we'll pass the information along. keeping our fingers crossed on that one. >> we're hearing from some experts that based on the video released yesterday, the flow of oil may be greater than originally estimated. >> reporter: that's where it gets pretty interesting. there's professor who writes a book on the ...

To other natural disasters. >> well, first of all, in terms of oil leaks, you know, it's certainly very significant. as of even three or four days ago, it was more significant in terms of volume of spilled product than all of the incidents related to katrina and rita combined, the two hurricanes. now, at the flow rate that they're talking about of about 5,000 barrels a day, we're still about 36 days away from the volume of the "exxon valdez." but obviously the flow isn't stopped. so unfortunately we could get there, although we pray not. zbl an >> and, you know, senator, this just doesn't happ...