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Of their race, class and gender. we should to acknowledge that. >> tucker: but, right, but i mean that could be true. in individual cases. >> could be? >> tucker: but in individual cases. but when you say it's true in every case what you are doing is judging people on the basise of the race which we agree is wrong -- >> number one, i said race, class and gender. >> tucker: just stick with race. class is a fluid thing. f i mean your class can change. it can. sure. >> it's rare. >> tucker: it can.ot it's not in your d.n.a. i can't study your bones andnd find out what class you are. >> race is no...

We need to acknowledge that. >> tucker: but, right, but i mean that could be true. in individual cases. >> could be? >> tucker: but in individual cases. but when you say it's true in every case what you are doing is judging people on the basis of the race which we agree is wrong. >> number one, i said race, class and gender. >> tucker: just stick with race. class is a fluid thing. i mean your class can change. i can. sure. >> it's rare. >> tucker: it can. it's not in your d.n.a. i can't study your bones and find out what class you are. >> race is not in your d.n.a. either. we can go on. >> tuc...

Defendant. closed quote. and that means, basically, you're a defendant. >> mm-hm. >> that means you basically are about to be charged. >> mm-hm. >> and everyone else in the middle is a subject. >> okay. >> so you can be a subject that's closer to a witness, a subject closer to a target. it's a fluid thing. the gathering of evidence is a fluid thing. you're learning more and more. some evidence will lead you to believe that someone's more of on the target side of that spectrum, then you might learn something more that exculpates them. >> if a person moves from subject to target, you would then ...

Victim or the shooter they just happened to be there. on the other extreme is the target and the u.s. attorney manual defines a target as someone who, where there's substantial evidence linking that person to the commission of an offense. another way the u.s. attorney manual describes the target category is a quote, putative defendant. closed quote. and that means, basically, you're a defendant. >> mm-hm. >> that means you basically are about to be charged. >> mm-hm. >> and everyone else in the middle is a subject. >> okay. >> so you can be a subject that's closer to a witness, a subject close...

Far but again, this is all sorted if a fluid thing. we do not know the response, uc berkeley has their own. they are kind of any backed off position right now. they told people to leave, this is kind of a lockdown situation. as far as teargas, going after or pushing these students were teachers away, we have not seen that yet. through the police there is a police presence. >> tucker: just to recap, it was certainly precipitated by a speech that was supposed to be given by milo yiannopoulos, a writer and provocateur conservative, among other thing things. where is he? >> he is gone, he left.