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Carbondale. jerry, thanks for being here. what did you think about this? >> what did i think? >> yeah. it seems that maybe kind of outrageous a response. >> it is outrageous. >> but jerry, some people are saying it's rude to put your seat back. >> it is outrageous that this behavior is now acceptable on airlines. there are no fly lists. >> yes. >> for terrorists. there should be for people who engage in this kind of behavior. >> but if somebody puts the tray table back in your face, don't you have a right to respond? >> yes. there's not enough room on airlines at all. i think he maybe have bee...

>> reporter: it was a fairly gradual process and took place over several years, if you believe his defenders, they say that jihadi john mohammed emwazi, who spent almost all of his life growing up in london that he was a victim according to some of his associates. they say he was constantly harassed by british intelligence and denied the ability to travel outside the country on more than one occasion. he couldn't leave because he was on no fly lists. and that he tried to be recruited to work for mi5 for british intelligence. and the harassment is what drove him to hate his home country and hat...

Citizens and be able to do the data collection there. also, supplying all those lists of personnel from day one to the fbi who are working in that command post from the very night the plane disappeared so they could go to the u.s. embassy and securely communicate back to the u.s. and check all of the u.s. data bases, national crime information center, all the no fly lists and terror watch list and of course, all the interpol data bases would be queried. so that would be ongoing with all different countries that may involve people that had a hand either being on the aircraft or servicing the ai...

So, this new iteration of letters that dhs pays people courtesy of letting them know whether or not changes have or have not been made. but we regularly see people on no fly lists receive letters essentially say if a change was appropriate we made it, if a change was not appropriate we didn't make it. and what's really disconcerting is that dhs doesn't know why -- >> they literal liu have a list of names. >> they just have a list of names. it's only fbi and god know why he was placed on the no fly list. >> i want to ask you this and i don't want to endorse the suspicion that was cast pound for...

Authorities to losing him? according to an administration official, shahzad was added to the no fly list 12:30 monday afternoon. nine minutes later a message went out to air carriers advising them there was a special add to the list, but shahzad's name was not caught by emirates airlines at 6:30 when he made his reservation while driving to the airport or at 7:35 when he showed up at the counter and bought his ticket with cash because the airline had not yet updated its no fly list. to close that loophole, the tsa is now requiring that airlines update no fly lists within two hours of getting a...