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Going to be a case where ultimately flynn talks about one dime that passed back and forth or one ruble that passed back and forth or whether or not there was some quid pro quo or offer to reduce sanctions. that is going to come back on the president and i think he probably feels the walls closing in around the oval office. >> michael moore, thanks so much. >> glad to be with you. president trump has just arrived at arlington national cemetery to lay wreaths. let's take a listen.

Don mcgahn on january 26. >> she came to white house with deep concerns about michael flynn. >> yates later testifies s's troubled by the disconnect about how flynn describes the calls to pence. vs. the fbi recording of them. >> so what you're saying is that general flynn lied to the vice president. >> that's certainly how it appeared yes. >> she thought mike em flynn was subject to blackmail. because he hadn't told the truth about meetings with the russians. russians knew that. >> you don't want him compromised with the russians. >> there's no apparent response from the white house concerning...

Week. in one e-mail from january 13, flynn writes, i'm trying to establish a relationship, but, yes, there were multiple calls in reference to the russian ambassador. the last one last year was on 29 december to discuss a post inauguration call between the two leaders. nothing was agreed to. in the records, flynn talks about these being condolences to the russians after a military jet went down. he also talks about inviting them to a serious conference. the word sanctions is not even mentioned in the interview. in the e-mails. so it may be there. at least from what we reviewed, it was not. >> ...

Donald trump. >> of course. but that's a whole set -- that's of course the ultimate purpose of the mueller investigation. right? the whole thing started because the president said to comey, please leave mike flynn alone. but all i'm trying to say here is that there are a lot of little bits of smoke, do not add up to fire, except politically. meaning, it's already had an affect on trump. nobody understands why he never said anything negative about putin during the primary, or the election season. and it looked bad and we all want to understand why on earth that would be, and whether or not ther...

Dynamics at play here. one is that that's the same m t meeting h.r. mcmaster came out and took a bullet for, as did dina powell, who were in the meeting, said i was there, it didn't happen, about the ki disclosure of classified information. that was undercut by the president the next morning when he seemed to tacitly admit what happened. reporting that the israelis are still furious about this. it's possible the staff would not take another bullet over the same meeting. they refused to come out once again and say that didn't happen, only to have the president -- the other thing is there is an ...