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Years, because right now george w. bush, his foreign policy has been under scrutiny? >> look. i think conservatives and republicans, george w. bush, maybe history will remember him more kindly. but i think ronald reagan, still, is who you harken back to if you want to harken back. but no, sstalgia is not the pla you want to be. i wonder how it translates and for a younger generation, i don't remember ronald reagan even, as amazing as that sounds. >> let's focus in, then. matt, donald trump said that he watches the shows, like the sunday shows for military advice. i assume he means the news

Requires a great deal of patience. >> you go really slow. >> right. >> the model we have is to go slow, to speed up. you don't speed up. i have an uncle, joe, lopiccalo, he also worked slow but he could fix anything. one of my themes was go slow like joe lopiccalo. >> this was supposed to be part of a fix. they were going to use -- >> not that. no. >> this is our producer's snorkel. >> we're not using that thing. >> they came up with a fix to make sure the water would not effectively drown the astronaut inside the space suit. it was a fix they modified a space snorkel? >> michaela, nasa fixes ...

On? >> it depends how sloppy the hackers were. in cases of recent time, involving large-scale credit card theft, the perpetrators were in russia or the ukraine. it really depends how far the department of justice reaches in these countries. i suspect that's where -- i think -- i'm guessing the attackers were from a foreign country. >> so clearly, companies and retailers, they've got a big challenge ahead of them to try to prevent from something like this happening again. what are your tips or customers? customers are the ones that are vulnerable here. is there any way they can protect themselv...

It's not designed for you to move easily around. how do you deal with all these things. >> we said focus is one of the first words i said. >> do astronauts lack the fear gene. >> panic is not going to help you. what you do, you have to do one thing at a time. focus in, the most important thing right now in the world for me is to turn this bolt or move this piece of equipment over here. i'm not going to think about what's going on at home or my kids geometry test next week. i'm focusing in on what i'm going to do. the most important thing is what you're doing now. it's not so much fear but you ...

Affidavit, they'll take that charge after your credit card. however, when you use a debit card, if you don't catch that transaction within a certain period of time, you might be liable for it. one thing i would do, always use a credit card. check your credit card statement and in this particular case, the fraudsters actually stole your credit card information or consumer information actually in a brick and mortar store, not over the internet. this is even more scary where you go into a physical store and your information is stolen. unfortunately, the consumer doesn't have much control of that....