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Economic proposes and policies, they re not much different than they have ever been but to tout them and renew focus on them, it hasn t helped him yet. i m thinking that the fighting with house republicans and senate republicans, in regard to the looming budget issue and debt ceiling issue, they don t tend to help members about congress but they have also shown that they can drag down the president s approval numbers and that doesn t necessarily help him in terms of negotiating. so it is going to be a long fight. really, jon, until we get back to a case of 250,000 jobs a month, over month, over month, being created there will be, despite a lost good economic indicators there will be a drag in the eyes of a lot of americans that this economy isn t where they want it to be. jon: we have another budget fight coming up the end of sent when the federal budget, federal government will run out of money. get ready for another showdown. jon: we ll be covering that for sure, david, thank you. ....