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Liberal wilderness i'm not sure everything you cited is fact. let's get some facts from wayne. >> i think the problem is it's not a moral one. everyone says oh this got down and out and he needs food we should help him. all those things are true. we all agree on that. there always is a certain amount of that. we have as you said earlier, 18 food programs administrated by three separate federal agencies. that's the problem. you've got the federal government in every part of our life doing things wrong. they can't do anything wrong. >> wait wait let me finish -- >> let me finish. they're trying ...

Left. >> if you ask the question what's going on here with all these food programs, the answer is, number one, once you've got a program, you can never, ever get rid of a government program. >> they reform welfare. >> you can't get rid or reform them. a general accounting office said in testimony, seven of these programs out of 18 have positive results. but little is known about the effectiveness of the remaining 11 programs. >> what does positive results mean? the federal government was able to give stuff away. >> they got it out. distribution. they got the food out i presume. they don't know...

Massive farm bill that included an $8.7 billion cut in food stamps over the next ten years. in a new series "the invisible us" alex wagner takes a look at the importance of food assistance and emergency food programs across the country. moo. >> not all of them are massive operations like the one in new york city. in eastern kentucky, the outreach teep kooeps its food in the back of a thrift store. donated food is stored anywhere there's space. meals can be made out of just about anything the center receives. >> these are already ready to eat meals. the children love these. >> that's what they ...

>> new york city here has done a pretty good job of complying with the sarndz, and according to mayor ablasio, they're gaining access to a lot of food programs. i fine it's so ironic conservatives who want to micromanage and think we can successfully micromanage countries across the globe think there's nothing we can do to make our kids' lunches healthier. >> i have to leave there. thank you for your time this evening. and this program note. last week, i interviewed ron stallworth, a former police detective who went undercover as a member of the ku klux klan. as i said at the time, i could hav...

Four hours a week working the a community center for the elderly. the other end of the spectrum. >> how does he define elderly, though? about 24? >> that is a cruel blow for him. >> it spares berlusconi jail time and house arrest. but the court will monitor his location. this is from "the wall street journal." the world's second largest economy is slowing down. china's gdp slip flrpd concerns that could lead to unemployment in china as massive double-digit growth start stlog down. forbes, a new report says walmart low wage employees cost taxpayers $6 billion in food programs that includes ...