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That. is there anything valid about that? >> i don't think so. i don't think that's what the inspector general found and this president finds this conduct deplorable. he tooks the steps he should take right away. this should never happen again. this is a breach of the public trust. we have to work together to rebuild the trust. do it in a serious way and not a bipartisan way. >> let me ask you about benghazi, the attack on our consulate, four americans killed. the president is making it clear he thinks this is a political hit job by republicans. do you acknowledge any mistakes made in the cour...

You write this from the book, "if you foul up, tell the boss and correct it fast, mistakes can usually be corrected if the organization's leaders are made aware of them and they are caught up early enough and faced honestly. bad news doesn't get better with time. if you have fouled something up, it's best to tell the boss first." >> that's true. >> accountability, whether it's irs or questions about benghazi, who is accountable? how do you assess that in these cases? >> in these cases i don't think they know yet. clearly the president, and in the case of benghazi, the secretary of state. that'...

Involved. oh, there is an investigation of benghazi so we're not responsible. the president and the executive branch need to govern on a daily basis, and you can't purchase immunity from governing. >> but you can't equate all those things, bob. >> yeah, you can. >> no. you can't say that it's okay to tell the president, to tete the attorney general in a criminal matter, what are you doing? >> but there is a policy issue here, do you issue this broad-based subpoena on reporters? >> but the president can't interfere with that. >> but you need to have a policy set down and there is proper communi...

President, and, of course, the iraq war, in a trust eroding. do you see parallels here or more sympathetic or less inclined to the critical? >> anyone looking at those jobs have to know they're tough jobs. clearly. and when you've got one big problem, it's a big problem. >> right. >> when you've got two, it's like ten. when you have three, it's a problem. >> right. >> it's a perfect storm in there right now and those jobs are very difficult and there are a lot of things that make them even more difficult. >> but former vice president cheney said that they're lying in the administration. do you...

In search of answers, or are we in search of scandals? it's a different thing to say what happened in cincinnati with the irs goes all the way to the white house. there is no evidence. in fact, the inspector general who looked into this at the irs said there was no political motivation involved. and quite honestly, i agree with the young senator mcconnell. the reason we have this problem is because we have a tax code that allows groups to use their political operations within the tax code under the guise of a charity to use undisclosed millions of dollars to do political campaigns. >> i think ...