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And/or mueller's office sat with cohen for many hours. they have heard what he has to say and been able to vet it. you can never fully corroborate it. but if you want an example of this going the opposite direction, look at manafort. they looked at what he told them and concluded this is not true or something we can bank on. that cooperation blew up. this is the other scenario. we have been through the process with cohen. they backed up what he has to say. they're confident to go in and sign him up. that's what i believe we will see today in the southern district. >> thank you. stay with us. a...

Nobody knows where this is headed or where it's at except for mueller and the people on his many team. you know, for whatever reason papadopoulos and his lawyers trying to go to the judge at the 11th hour and derail this prison time. people have tried from so much to sort of create barriers or obstacles for robert mueller, and think point the report is going to come. you'll see what he's found and the chips will fall where they may, but everything between now and then feels a lot like theatrics. >> theatrics but we also have to stay on top of it because there's so many characters so we want to...

Et cetera, someone who should know better, you don't talk to russians in the middle of a campaign and you certainly don't bring them into trump tower when your nominee is named trump. >> that counts for something and to see a shift like this certainly suggests that mr. manafort is concerned about minimizing his exposure to any more potential time and willing to share what he knows. again, we don't know what that means. it's not good for the president. we don't know what it means for the president. >> manafort could have gone to jail for a lot more. number two, the special counsel can come back...

House, saying he didn't think there was collusion from two years of reporting that he had done. it does seem to me that they're getting manafort's cooperation but it's probably not about collusion with russia. it's about some other crime surrounding trump. so that should be interesting and it will be interesting to see the truch white house's reaction as mueller's probe proceeds. >> as the white house says, it has nothing to do with the president. again, there's nothing in the official record that implies it has to do with the president. we should be careful about that. the president says he h...

2016 campaign but he could not be more wrong when he labels the mueller investigation as a witch hunt. the fourth aide to plead guilty. he had russian ties when he joined the campaign. if anyone on team trump was aware of the russian election interference, manafort would likely know. the platform language on russia was softened and at the infamous trump tower meeting arranged by donald trump jr. after promised by russians to deliver dirt on hillary clinton. >> the jig is up. this nonsense that there's nothing to see here or this is a witch hunt, now the trump team is 0 for mueller. >> manafort...