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Himself to intimidate a witness who has a legal obligation to be here today. this committee will hear mr. mcgahn's testimony even if we have to go to court to secure it. we will not allow the president to prevent the american people from hearing from this witness. we'll not allow the president to block congressional issue pea n -- subpoenas putting himself and his allies above the law. >> kelly, where are we at now? >> reporter: one of the important things we have to be looking for is changes in the force field of democratic reaction. we have known for a long time there's many democrats who be...

Congress talking about their belief it's the right call to make. that's different than beginning that process. >> the white house has made several arguments about this testimony but there are arguments about all sorts of things that congress has subpoenaed or people that congress has subpoenaed. some of it goes along the lines of an argument there's no legislative purpose or ill legitimate requests. what's the white house strategy? it seems to be put the brakes on and reasist as much as possible >> reporter: as it returns to the documents in regarding to the accounting firm. they have indicate...

Independent and neutral way. the process is dead. >> lot of people gave barr the benefit of the doubt when he got to the doj because of his long and reputable career. did you give him the benefit of the doubt as well in the beginning? >> absolutely. because i naively thought he would want to uphold his reputation. he would not want to incinerate his reputation on the alter of donald trump and clearly i misjudged him. >> we have seen how he has changed in trump's orbit. why does this happen to people close to this president? >> that's a great question, don. i mean -- >> did i stump you, max? i'...

On the campaign finance violations. it's possible that the president ends up running for re-election which is to stay out of criminal exposure. which is to say, if he's elected, his sort of force field that protects him from being indicts extends for another four years and maybe he can get away with it, which is a pretty perverse situation for us to find ourselves in. >> no one needs to wins this election more than president trump. >> elie mystal, thank you for joining me. elie mystal, thank joining me ♪ unstopables in-wash scent booster ♪ downy unstopables i but i can tell you i liberty m...

>> and there's a question of statute of limitations. it is possible that if -- you said -- the president runs for reelection to essentially stay out of criminal exposure. to say if he's elected, his force field extends for another four years and maybe he can get away with it. >> nobody needs to win this election more than donald trump. >> thank you so much for joining us. dwm [ meowing ] mittens! make it rain. [ cheering ] [ singing opera ] change the music. ♪ when i move, you move beep. beep. use the rocket. [ sputtering ] if only everything in life listened to you like your new a-class. ...