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Why not make the case that he's unfit for office because of this to the voters and have them render that verdict as opposed to having congress preemptively do it through impeachment? >> so, two things, steve. first of all, i really think this is just parroting the white house's talking points when people talk about the polls and this and is that. we're talking about the most solemn thing imaginable, which is has the president abused his oath of office and abused the power that he's been given as commander in chief. and regardless of what the polls say, i think that question has to be investiga...

People with david miller, this is a case where the president-elect could very well follow through. >> don, could i just add one point. part of the reason is that once presidential advisers, and in this case both tillerson at state and madison at defense, i suspect understand this issue, and will at least acquaint the president with the down sides of doing so. i'm not sure it's fore-ordained, it's just the signals right now are quite powerful. >> i want to see an opportunity of donald trump taking his first month in office. it says president jong-un is racing to create nuclear