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>> well, it's very easy to criticize tillerson on the foreign policy platform. he actually has no experience, other than running exxon operations in russia. but let's look at the reporting we've recently seen out of the "the new york times" this weekend, which shows that the fbi and the national security agency, the central intelligence agency and the treasury financial crimes unit actually have a fisa warrant out on members of the trump administration team, where right now we know that it's possibly carter paige, paul man for tafo possibly roger stone. but rex tillerson's connections are so...

I think what president nixon and dr. kissinger did in terms of opening up negotiations with china, that was part of this. it's too early to tell but that level of unpredictability is a good thing. if you look at where foreign policy has gone in the last eight years, you're seeing a reaction to that. we predicted what we would do in syria and we didn't follow through. i'd rather have a president that was unpredictable than predicted something and didn't follow through. this is a reaction to the last eight years in terms of what people want to see in the u.s. which is more strength abroad and i ...

Opening up negotiations with china, that was part of this. it's too early to tell but that level of unpredictability is a good thing. if you look at where foreign policy has gone in the last eight years, you're seeing a reaction to that. we predicted what we would do in syria and we didn't follow through. i'd rather have a president that was unpredictable than predicted something and didn't follow through. this is a reaction to the last eight years in terms of what people want to see in the u.s. which is more strength abroad and i think you're seeing that reaction and hopefully a good one. >> ...

And president-elect trump's positions on the threat that russia presents, the importance of nato, as part of a national -- american's national security posture, trade, for example, not only an economic issue, but a diplomatic one. these are very big differences that i think governor romney would require some element of -- not concession, but an element of understanding that you have to have a much more comprehensive approach on many of these issues, if he were to try and advance a foreign policy platform in a trump administration. up until the mitt romney meeting that's happening this weekend,...

Would require some element of -- not concession, but an element of understanding that you have to have a much more comprehensive approach on many of these issues, if he were to try and advance a foreign policy platform in a trump administration. >> so cade, up until the mitt romney meeting that's happening this weekend, the meeting that raised the most eyebrows that the president-elect has had is with governor nikki haley of south carolina, who was a critic of donald trump's during the primaries, especially, although of a different order, frankly, than mitt romney. she is a friend of yours. wh...