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Family's home in florida on september 1st. if it was before that, then they would look at whether or not brian laundrie was still in the area and around where her remains were found, john, so the time of death is key at least for investigative purposes. >> if gabby petito's body was exposed to the elements for a considerable amount of time as we think it was, how does that limit what investigators might be able to find out? >> well, the forensic expert, scientist, that we spoke with said they should be able to find out the cause of death. that there would be considerable decomposition because ...

Time of death is key at least for investigative purposes. >> if gabby petito's body was exposed to the elements for a considerable amount of time as we think it was, how does that limit what investigators might be able to find out? >> well, the forensic expert, scientist, that we spoke with said they should be able to find out the cause of death. that there would be considerable decomposition because she was likely exposed to the elements for weeks, but he also said that it was very hot in wyoming and we know that from being there in, and that would actually speed up the decomposition. he stil...

Apart. at 50 miles per hour. that's outrageous, that's crazy. >> remember the forensic expert was clear there was gunshot residue, in the young man's car. and on some of their hands. proving the must've fired the gun. must. f to which they were to reply, nonsense. that defense expert, must not have been pretty to all of the. evidence >> the gunshot residue was really not gunshot residue. it was elements that could make up gunshot residue. anytime a car is hit with that many high velocity rounds, from an ar-15. you're going to expect to see. lead >> expert versus expert, matter of opinion, how ...

It would tell a tale of its own. what'd you learn about it? it's a little cloth bag. after a number of weeks of trying to determine where this bag came from, we finally found there because little company in richmond, virginia, the millhiser kompany. they've been around for 100 years. they produced this bag. >> that company supplied those bags through a middleman to only one client in georgia, delta airlines. >> delta airlines is where butch hinton worked, and when we conducted a search at butch hinton's workplace, on his desk were a number of these bags. >> and the prosecutor brought in a fore...

To. that means nothing to me at all. what does matter to me would be all of the forensic evidence and what we know so far. so far we connection five death bodies to the murdaugh family. that are. >> joining us dr. michelle dupree. forensic expert. and author and former detective with south carolina sheriff department. matt harris, a reporter with sources across the state, creator of murdaugh family murders impact of influence podcast and also clay first responder with beaufort water search and rescue. ♪ ♪ >> jim: start with most recent death that is paul. and maggie murdaugh.