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Midnight. this video was shot across the street from the ferguson police station where those two officers had been standing guard. you just heard at least three shots and then chaos as frightened people reacted and tried to get to safety. i want to bring in a professor here, test a forensic scientist. the reason i wanted to talk to you about this was they were able to get shell casings and apparently the officer who was shot in the face has a slug lodged behind his ear. so clearly, they will be able to get that slug, the casing and what will those do for us forensically to try to track down th...

In fact, batches of things in that that might have embarrassed her with regard to dicey questions, but not just benghazi, that she doesn't just destroy that in the 30,000 e-mails? >> the irony is she's backed herself into a corner. it's hard to ever know what was deleted. >> no, if you get the server, you can tell. >> yeah, but if you had the server, but if they have in fact deleted thousands of e-mails from the server that were personal, according to them, it's impossible to know what those e-mails were, how personal they were. >> isn't it? you can't retrieve them? i thought you could. >> i'm...

Raised this afternoon? will we ever get to the bottom of this from the viewpoint of trey gowdy? in fact batches of things in that that might have embarrassed her with regard to dicey questions, but not just benghazi, that she doesn't just destroy that in the 30,000 e-mails? >> the irony is she's backed herself into a corner. it's hard to ever know what was deleted. >> no if you get the server you can tell. >> yeah but if you had the server, but if they have in fact deleted thousands of e-mails from the server that were personal, according to them it's impossible to know what those e-mails were...

Pieces and the oil slick that was discovered just above them, was there anything that was brought in mind to you immediately, what can we learn from that? >> well, you know, it's hard to say, victor, at this point in time, what those pieces are, they could be pieces of the wing. but i'd be more inclined to say fees of the fuselage, if there was an oil slick indeed near it, that could be portions of the engine intact and leaked a little bit. it may not be oil it could be hydraulic fluid in the fuselage. everything that's found helps forensically with the piece of the puzzle to find out why this...

>> let's get more to the difficulties officials are facing there. we bring in our guest, an atf retired special agent in charge. we have the ukrainian government today accusing russia of helping separatist rebels destroy evidence at the crash site. the rebels are denying that, we should say. is there anything the russians or the rebels could do at the scene to literally alter the investigation? >> they could take the black box, the voice and data recorder, and if they have taken them, you know, we're never going to see them, they're not going to turn them over. forensically, there would be exp...