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Would likely stand out in eric holder's mind? >> it's unprecedented. and the degree of willingness of this administration to target, to target a reporter for this network as an unindicted coconspirator? i mean, that is without precedent. and, unfortunately, i think it's part and parcel of a pattern from this administration of not respecting the bill of rights. north respecting the first amendment. not respecting the second amendment. not respecting our fourth and fifth amendment rights regarding drone strikes. regarding the irs. over and over again the pattern we have seen is unfortunate willi...

Catholic but it only comes once a year, right? >> even the protestants we only do it once a year, too. that's all we have got, megyn. >> megyn: suggests a man who does not want to are for the right i'm saying that answer yet again leads to more questions. >> leads to a lot of peeps. i don't know how much he now regrets his testimony. i can be very certain though that the president regrets that mr. shulman conducted himself in this way and had such a bad outing. the questions continue you were talking about it earlier today americans know they want a special prosecutor to look into what happene...

Thrown in jail. >> and, yet, in that case, they basically fired nobody. ultimately a couple people resigned, the desk chairs were shuffled why talked about how in the state department in the wake of benghazi you have got four people on paid administrative leave. no one gets fired. so far the irs may ask for the rifings of one guy about to leave i. anyway and another guy. >> the people doing it. everybody lois lerner paid administrative leave. i know it's hard to fire a democrat -- bureaucrat but it can be done, can to not. >> i think president obama needs to take responsibility and needs to te...

>> megyn: we don't know that much about mr. shulman appointed by president bush. we know he donated $500 to the democratic national committee. so, you know, back in 2004 that was. so, we don't know exactly what his political persuasion is or whether he decided to get more political than we have seen in former irs chiefs. hopefully time will tell. maybe president obama is getting audited. [ laughter ] >> we'll look into it. >> megyn: thanks, chris. >> you bet. >> megyn: coming up, speak life with texas republican senator ted cruise a member of the senate judiciary committee and outspoken critic...

Still employed. nobody seems to lose their jobs except the irs commissioner did in that case. >> megyn: who was leaving two weeks later anyway. >> exactly. exactly. and allowed to retire with benefits and all the rest of it. john boehner said there ought to be a criminal investigation not a firing. the administration makes a lot of noises about investigation and doing the right thing. as we know from the whistle blowers, the arb was wholly inadequate. haven't suffered any serious consequences. >> megyn: they are on paid leave according to rand paul's office told the "the washington post" that ...