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Outside of 9-9-9 and he can't handle it. he is not able to parry and be flexible and talk about anything else. that is coming out. we're asking him and our colleagues are asking him serious questions and he can't answer them and then he is saying things like i'm a leader not a reader. >> it's one of those things, a fun line but when you think about it -- do we want this person to be president? >> right. >> jennifer, it goes beyond just kind of what herman cain has said. it feels like the campaign while always somewhat chaotic the wheels are starting to come off. the best example, yesterday the...

About these new reports regarding iran's nuclear capabilities. she simply said that the united states policy of doing these sanctions in some engagement will continue. now of course i'm going to have more of the interview later in the show. we get a little bit into some domestic issues. not just 2012 campaign but also that controversial decision having to do with the oil pipeline which of course had to go through the state department, chris. >> you know, chuck, you mentioned foreign policy. back here on the domestic side, the candidate struggling the most with foreign policy is herman cain but...

After some scuffles between reporters and some of his private security but what do we make of it? >> right. well, it's interesting. if they're using the excuse that it's about reporters, that is an interesting precedent to set. but you do know in talking with the secret service they have a very low bar. >> right. >> for this protection. i mean, if a candidate requests and it's a major candidate, you know, not sort of a gad fly but somebody who is performing well in the polls, they are going to acquiesce to that request. they have a pretty large budget. this is fairly late in the cycle for the ...