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Basically delineates no more forward progress and as we move around that perimeter we put in scratch line so we separate the burn fuel from the unburned fuel and we continue to lay progressive hose lays around the fire. in essence, we make sure that no fire debris, hot debris does not spill outside of the outer perimeter and make it into unburned fuel. eric: can you explain and describe the viewers where that perimeter is now and where the danger continues? >> well, the perimeter goes all the way down if you go dowrn perimeter along malibu canyon and roughly along the decker canyon north which...

Can't allow this to overtake our country. if we have speaker nancy pelosi or senate majority leader chuck schumer that is going to spell disaster for this country, the president's agenda will not get accomplished. everything we have seen positive under donald trump will come to a screeching halt and i think people understand they will try to impeach him and all the forward progress. so people understand it is so important to get out and vote in these midterms. shannon: what about civility, there are suggestions to get in people's faces, find in public and we see it happening and people agitati...

Surge i -- urgency. right now in the immediate crisis. no small irony the u.n. global climate change report comes out talking about these conditions, how 100 year storms are every year storms. we're dealing with this. tom, pick up on sam's point and one of the things we're watching. on my screen what we're watching in different areas, we see obviously what is the hurricane threat in this area. but tropical storm which everybody always mitigates its intensity, it's not that bad. it's horrible, especially in the areas that are already saturated. what is the additional risk there, tom? >> in 2003...

Tom, pick up on sam's point and one of the things we're watching. on my screen what we're watching in different areas, we see obviously what is the hurricane threat in this area. but tropical storm which everybody always mitigates its intensity, it's not that bad. it's horrible, especially in the areas that are already saturated. what is the additional risk there, tom? >> in 2003 hurricane isabel moved into the outer banks and went into the washington, d.c. area. it wasn't that strong a storm but it dropped over 10,000 trees. this is pine country, heavy, tall trees, weak shallow root systems. ...

Let's bring in ken graham now, director of the national hurricane center. ken is live with us. ken, what sort of changes have you seen and what should people expect. >> a close eye on this thing as we are seeing some further organization with the system. we are watching real close into the eye and really starting to see, you know, an expansion. really expansion of some of these winds. more organization. so it really is in line with the forecast being a major hurricane. let me tell you all the ocean right ahead of it not only warm at the surface but even deep labor warmth. so therlabor -- deep ...