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Akin to graffiti or a parking ticket? that is the question we are asking. >> tucker: i'm not sure that it is. i think it's -- you are asking a fair question. but let's get to the deeper question, which is why is our current immigration system good for people who already live here? if we decide for example that mass immigration and mass imlegal immigration hurts americans then it's worth to be tough on the borders. so explain to me people of east flat bush dealing with the overcrowded schools and dealing with the public transportation falling apart and dealing with the rising rents that are mak...

It's harlful, how harmful is it? >> tucker: i'm not making an argument. i'm asking you a question. the most simple and the most basic, the foundationm question. how does this help americans. our people? you don't have an answer to it. i find that really interesting, don't you? >> that is not the foundational question. we disagree on what the foundational question is. >> tucker: really? >> if i'm conceding for sake of your argument there is some harm it is akin to writing graffiti on the wall or akin to getting a parking ticket. so the question -- >> you are not proving that. you are just stati...

>> tucker: williams is a councilman running for the attorney government for new york state and could share a ticket potentially with cynthia nixon and joins us tonight for the special. thank you for coming on. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: let's start with being honest about one thing i think that michael antone is right about. most of time we talk about immigration we have a religious debate about who is the good or bad person. so if we could for the next four minutes keep it to policy. tell me how more immigrants bringing in your neighborhood, i think it's eat flash...

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Measures to rip up families for an issue that at best is akin to graffiti or a parking ticket? that is the question we are asking. >> tucker: i'm not sure that it is. i think it's -- you are asking a fair question. but let's get to the deeper question, which is why is our current immigration system good for people who already live here? if we decide for example that mass immigration and mass imlegal immigration hurts americans then it's worth to be tough on the borders. so explain to me people of east flat bush dealing with the overcrowded schools and dealing with the public transportation fal...